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caninesrock
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I know some aren't legal to own in certain areas of the US and some are only legal with permits,but I was just wondering about what types of wild dogs and/or foxes are legal to be privately owned on the national level?

The only ones I know for sure are:
Fennec Foxes with permits
Wolfdogs in some areas

I'm not sure if they're legal or not,but I've also heard of people owning Siberian Domesticated Foxes(although they are extremely rare outside of Russia), Domesticated Silver Foxes(which I'm not sure if they are the same thing as the siberian foxes or not. I know both silver and siberian foxes are both actually types of red fox though) ,people owning red foxes bred from other places besides Russia, and I saw a breeder that breeds gray foxes,arctic foxes, and swift foxes, as well as red foxes.

I read a book about a lady privately owning a orphaned coyote she raised,but she lived out in the middle of nowhere,so I'm not sure if coyotes are legal pets or not.

And is there any legislation on ownership of Coydogs(coyote-dog mix) or Solimov Dogs(jackal-dog mixes from Russia)?

Is it even possible to get a Solimov dog as a pet?

Exotic Wishlist: high content wolfdog or wolf,Coyote or Coydog, Black-backed Jackal, New Guinea Singing Dog, Red Fox

Domestic Wishlist: dogs, ferrets,

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Topic starter Posted : October 18, 2011 12:04 pm
Whatsername
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I believe that Raccoon Dogs are the only ones illegal on a national level. A lot of states will have laws against wolves and coyotes as they are considered "dangerous."

All types of foxes are legal nationally, but it depends on the state. Red Foxes are very common, probably the most common after Fennecs. Arctics as well are common here. Grays are probably after that, and then there is a small population of Swift fox owners. Oh yeah, and a couple Pale Foxes have recently been born here and are for sale. Corsac Foxes are common in the UK but I don't think there are any here in the US, yet. I would guess they are legal, as I'm sure Elina isn't planning on leaving them in England when she moves here. xD I think the only foxes that are illegal are the endangered ones, but correct me if I'm wrong.

As far as getting a Solimov dog as a pet... I've never heard of them, but as long as they are not illegal I'm pretty sure you can get anything as a pet with enough perseverance and hard work. Smile Just takes a lot of phone calls, emails, and import forms and such.

Oh yeah, and most exotics require permits in pretty much every state if they are legal.

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Posted : October 18, 2011 12:39 pm
Neofelis
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Sulimov dogs might not be that hard, actually, considering they're not full exotics. CA could very likely allow them, for example. A lot of states don't mind hybrids. Don't know of any breeders close by, though!

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Posted : October 18, 2011 2:03 pm
caninesrock
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Are any of these allowed as pets in the US(with permits) and do people actively breed them in the US?

Truly Wild Dogs and Foxes
http://www.canids.org/species/Pseudalop ... lpaeus.htm
http://www.canids.org/species/Canis_latrans.htm
http://www.canids.org/species/Urocyon_c ... enteus.htm
http://www.canids.org/species/Vulpes_velox.htm
http://www.canids.org/species/Alopex_lagopus.htm
http://www.canids.org/species/Canis_lupus.htm
http://www.canids.org/species/Vulpes_vulpes.htm
http://www.canids.org/species/Nyctereut ... noides.htm
http://www.canids.org/species/Vulpes_corsac.htm
http://www.canids.org/species/Canis_aureus.htm
http://www.canids.org/species/Canis_mesomelas.htm
http://www.canids.org/species/Otocyon_megalotis.htm
http://www.canids.org/species/Vulpes_zerda.htm
http://www.canids.org/species/Cuon_alpinus.htm
http://www.canids.org/species/Canis_lupus_dingo.htm
http://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/9359.html and http://www.nlnature.com/Canadian-Wildli ... ote-6.aspx
http://www.thestar.com/article/681632

Pariah Dogs(dogs that were originally ferals):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Guinea_Singing_Dog
Indian Pariah Dog
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pariah_dog
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_pariah_dog
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaan_Dog
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolina_Dog
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telomian
Borneo Dogs(no info?)

Hybrids:
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/coydog.htm
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/wolamute.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulimov_dog

Exotic Wishlist: high content wolfdog or wolf,Coyote or Coydog, Black-backed Jackal, New Guinea Singing Dog, Red Fox

Domestic Wishlist: dogs, ferrets,

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Topic starter Posted : October 18, 2011 3:05 pm
Ash
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Okay, here are the illegal canines:

Any endangered species of fox. The one that immediately comes to mind is the "Island fox" or something like that. Reds, arctics, grays, swifts, corsacs, fennecs, pales, bat-eared are all legal. Kit foxes are legal, but there are no breeders I know of.

Wolves are as well unless it's an endangered pure subspecies--then it requires a USDI permit.

African Wild Dogs are illegal to keep, as are Maned wolves (sadly...). They're both endangered.

Jackals are fine, coyotes are fine.

If you ever want to check to see if you can own an animal under federal law, check its status on the IUCN red list. If it's listed as endangered, you can't have it. Also check CITES. Anything that is CITES I cannot be imported into the US. Then check the Fish and Wildlife's list of endangered species. Their list differs from what the IUCN red list says.

If there's a particular species on that list you want to know about, I can look it up for you. I just don't have the time to look up the legalities of each one, lol. I did that once, but once was enough. Maybe I'll make a list though.

And of course, these are the federal regulations. You still need to check your state, county, city, and sometimes even your zone.

Example: Red foxes are completely legal according to federal regulations. However, they are illegal in California. So state ALWAYS trumps federal law (unless the state's law explicitly says otherwise), county law always trumps state, city laws.... etc. So the "smaller" you go, the more likely there are to be regulations. But it doesn't go the other way around--if foxes are legal in your town, they may not be legal in your state, and you can't have one.

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Posted : October 18, 2011 4:43 pm
Whatsername
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Are any of these allowed as pets in the US(with permits) and do people actively breed them in the US?

Truly Wild Dogs and Foxes
http://www.canids.org/species/Pseudalop ... lpaeus.htm
http://www.canids.org/species/Canis_latrans.htm
http://www.canids.org/species/Urocyon_c ... enteus.htm
http://www.canids.org/species/Vulpes_velox.htm
http://www.canids.org/species/Alopex_lagopus.htm
http://www.canids.org/species/Canis_lupus.htm
http://www.canids.org/species/Vulpes_vulpes.htm
http://www.canids.org/species/Nyctereut ... noides.htm
http://www.canids.org/species/Vulpes_corsac.htm
http://www.canids.org/species/Canis_aureus.htm
http://www.canids.org/species/Canis_mesomelas.htm
http://www.canids.org/species/Otocyon_megalotis.htm
http://www.canids.org/species/Vulpes_zerda.htm
http://www.canids.org/species/Cuon_alpinus.htm
http://www.canids.org/species/Canis_lupus_dingo.htm
http://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/9359.html and http://www.nlnature.com/Canadian-Wildli ... ote-6.aspx
http://www.thestar.com/article/681632

Pariah Dogs(dogs that were originally ferals):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Guinea_Singing_Dog
Indian Pariah Dog
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pariah_dog
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_pariah_dog
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaan_Dog
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolina_Dog
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telomian
Borneo Dogs(no info?)

Hybrids:
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/coydog.htm
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/wolamute.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulimov_dog

I answered most of these in my last post. Foxes that are actively bred in the US are Red Foxes, Arctic Foxes, Gray Foxes, and Fennec Foxes. There is one Swift Fox breeder, and you can find her information in the breeders section. There is one pale fox breeder as well, but I think they're getting rid of their breeding stock. You can also occasionally find bat-eared foxes, usually through Ken's Exotics.

There are a few wolf dog breeders but you really have to look around for the legit ones. Most are scams. :/

Other than that, as long as the animal is not illegal, you can probably still get it. Somehow. Just not as easily as if it were being bred actively.

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Posted : October 18, 2011 5:58 pm
caninesrock
Noble Member

@Whatshername:
Tamanduagirl's topic here says that dholes(cuon alpinus)-sad cause I really wanted some :(- and raccoon dogs are both illegal in the US.
Her second post in the topic says that the gray wolf(canis lupus) can not be kept as a pet becuase it's considered an endangered species. Also, red wolves(canis rufus) are not allowed to be kept as pets either since they are even more endangered than gray wolves.

viewtopic.php?f=71&t=6033

Also, African Wild Dogs(lycaon pictus) and Ethiopian Wolves(canis simien) are listed on the United States Endangered species list:
http://ecos.fws.gov/tess_public/pub/listedAnimals.jsp

Also, according to the list Swift Foxes are endangered(or alteast the subspecies northern swift)?

Sulimov dog is a jackal-dog hybrid bred by the Russian government.

@vin-girl
I don't have a problem with being able to legally get a Sulimov. My problem is they are extremely hard to obtain as I believe there are only a few in existance that were bred as an experiment by the Russian government to try and make better sniffer dogs for the police since jackals have a better sense of smell than domestic dogs.

@Ash: Thanks. That's very helpful. ^^ I read that gray wolves are illegal as pets becuase they are endangered though? The ones I'm most interested in are:

Culpeo
http://www.canids.org/species/Pseudalop ... lpaeus.htm

Sechuran Fox
http://www.canids.org/species/Pseudalopex_sechurae.htm

Coyote

Grey Wolf(which apparently are illegal) ๐Ÿ™ Guess I'll just have to get a hybrid instead.

Red Fox

Raccoon Dog
http://www.canids.org/species/Nyctereut ... noides.htm (Apparently illegal even for import becuase it's considered an invasive species ๐Ÿ™ I heard that's supposedly even hard for zoos to get the permits and obtain permission to import them which explains why there's no raccoon dogs in north american zoos.)

Corsac Fox
http://www.canids.org/species/Vulpes_corsac.htm

Golden Jackal
http://www.canids.org/species/Canis_aureus.htm

Dhole(unfortunately also illegal to even by imported unless it's for zoo purposes)
http://www.canids.org/species/Cuon_alpinus.htm

Exotic Wishlist: high content wolfdog or wolf,Coyote or Coydog, Black-backed Jackal, New Guinea Singing Dog, Red Fox

Domestic Wishlist: dogs, ferrets,

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Topic starter Posted : October 18, 2011 8:57 pm
Whatsername
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The Sechuran fox is cute! I think your best bet would be a Corsac. There are people who actually breed them in England, so it's really doable. I know someone here, kinda not really, tried to import one from England. But the only reason it didn't work out was cause of the guy trying to do it and his indecisiveness and such... At least that's my understanding. You'd have to ask Elina for more details though, as she was involved and also I believe she has four(?) herself.

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Posted : October 18, 2011 9:03 pm
caninesrock
Noble Member

Awesome.Thanks. Smile Now, if only I could find a culpeo, a golden jackal, and a coyote breeder somewhere.

Exotic Wishlist: high content wolfdog or wolf,Coyote or Coydog, Black-backed Jackal, New Guinea Singing Dog, Red Fox

Domestic Wishlist: dogs, ferrets,

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Topic starter Posted : October 18, 2011 9:10 pm
Whatsername
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I found this: http://shorttailedopossum.tripod.com/bl ... isting.htm

I think (in fact I am almost positive) that this is an old ad. However, if Ken had them at one point, it's likely that he could get them again. More likely, though, that he could get the black backed one.

Anyway, I'll keep an eye out. I did see a coydog breeder on another thread, but not sure if that'd work for you or not. xD

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Posted : October 18, 2011 9:21 pm
sarajeku
Noble Member

Oooh I've always liked black backed jackals. So cute!

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Posted : October 18, 2011 9:25 pm
caninesrock
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I found this: http://shorttailedopossum.tripod.com/bl ... isting.htm

I think (in fact I am almost positive) that this is an old ad. However, if Ken had them at one point, it's likely that he could get them again. More likely, though, that he could get the black backed one.

Anyway, I'll keep an eye out. I did see a coydog breeder on another thread, but not sure if that'd work for you or not. xD

Interesting,but I really prefer Goldens to Black-Backeds and his add says that he'll only offer both species of jackal to zoos,not to private individuals, as well as that he will only sell the golden jackals once.

Exotic Wishlist: high content wolfdog or wolf,Coyote or Coydog, Black-backed Jackal, New Guinea Singing Dog, Red Fox

Domestic Wishlist: dogs, ferrets,

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Topic starter Posted : October 18, 2011 9:29 pm
Whatsername
Reputable Member

I think in the end Ken would be your best bet anyway. He's a well-known breeder/broker with a lot of experience. I think if you went to him and requested one, he would look for one for you. I'm pretty sure that'd be the only way to do it-- if not through him, then another broker. And he said he'd sell them for breeding purposes, so I'm sure that as long as you buy two and then breed them, he'd be fine with it. And anyway, I think that's what you'd have to do to get a "tame" one, since you'd want to hand raise it on the bottle, and since there's no breeders you'd have to do it yourself.

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Posted : October 18, 2011 10:06 pm
caninesrock
Noble Member

Thanks guys. Now that I know what ones are legal on a national level, any info on what ones are legal in Texas? Just found out all foxes are illegal here unless you plan on killing them for their fur instead of keeping them as a pet which really sucks. I'm not sure if Culpeo are considered foxes/fur-bearing animals under the law or not since they are techinically not classified as foxes scientifically. I'm not certain,but I believe wolves and wolfdogs are illegal here in Texas as well,which crushes yet another one of my dreams. -__-

Also, anyone know of any state where it's legal to own all species of exotic canines that can legally be owned on a national level, most specfically all species of fox both false and true, wolfdogs, jackals(atleast golden if not black-backed as well),coyotes,jackal-dog hybrids(Sulimov Dogs) and coydogs? Oh,forgot to add that I'd prefer a state where ferrets, coatimundi, kinkajous and sugar gliders are legal as well, or atleast where ferrets,coatimundi, and kinkajous are legal if not sugar gliders.

Exotic Wishlist: high content wolfdog or wolf,Coyote or Coydog, Black-backed Jackal, New Guinea Singing Dog, Red Fox

Domestic Wishlist: dogs, ferrets,

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Topic starter Posted : October 19, 2011 11:17 am
Whatsername
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Hmm... Texas is not good for exotics. :/ I think Ohio and Florida are known for being good for exotics. Definitely not California

Well, I'm always an advocate for North Dakota, haha. We allow everything with the right permit. But it would be a big transition from Texas! Haha. Actually, for some reason it seems like a lot of people who move here are from Texas... Hmm...

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Posted : October 19, 2011 11:28 am
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