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GitaBooks
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Hopefully the medicine helps!

From my understanding, cataracts never leaves once it sets in. However, it can be prevented from getting worse. Here is a link with some information on the eye issues diabetic dogs can have and the options of how to help them: http://animaleyecare.net/diseases/catar ... beticdogs/

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Posted : July 29, 2019 9:32 am
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Hopefully the medicine helps!

From my understanding, cataracts never leaves once it sets in. However, it can be prevented from getting worse. Here is a link with some information on the eye issues diabetic dogs can have and the options of how to help them: http://animaleyecare.net/diseases/catar ... beticdogs/

thank you for that link. some eye drops claim to help cateracts. through my research, eye drops should be used after surgery.
also, my niece told me her friends dog was blind and she used "cansee" and it worked. however, I have to wonder if that is just temporary

I am bringing Lucy to the vets today, and getting her insulin. However, I did ask one vet if he thought eye drops would help her. he said no,
but, that was before he knew she has diabetes. Maybe I will call a different vet

Actually, am really pissed off that the 1st vet never mentioned the possibility of diabetes

It just breaks my heart to see her blind. on another note, her and leo were outside all day yesterday, they were running and playing.
at night and in the morning I take Lucy out through the side door (it is a more like a ramp) I have to keep clapping my hands so she knows where to go. Once she is on grass, she does better. (not a ball of fire though)

Thank you so very much for the information. I will print it out and save it. You are such a wonderful person. I am so grateful for your help.
If there is ever anything I can do for you, please let me know.

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Topic starter Posted : July 29, 2019 10:44 am
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this is the product my nieces friend used and allledgly worked

https://www.wisechoicemedicine.com/prod ... -dogs-too/

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Topic starter Posted : July 29, 2019 10:47 am
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So glad to hear she was playing!

If the Can-C product works that could be really nice! From the few things I've read, there seems to have been positive results in dogs! Watch for signs of glaucoma (red, swollen eyes), they said that can be an issue with dogs with diabetes and can make it harder to treat the cataracts.

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Posted : July 29, 2019 1:37 pm
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So glad to hear she was playing!

If the Can-C product works that could be really nice! From the few things I've read, there seems to have been positive results in dogs! Watch for signs of glaucoma (red, swollen eyes), they said that can be an issue with dogs with diabetes and can make it harder to treat the cataracts.

Her eyes look normal. I was researching and some places claim a dog should have an injection in the eyes, then follow up with the drops.
I just called a vet I went to long time ago. only had a couple animals there in the past. the girl I talked to said she is going to ask the vet and call me back. Guess, that is not a guarantee either.

I told my vet about the eye injection and he said he don't do that.
However, I will need to get Lucy treated first for her diabetes.

I might try the eye drops you posted before. more expensive, maybe better From what I read, it takes a few months to work, along with a few more bottles.but, better late than nothing.

Thank you so much for your support. I truly appreciate it.

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Topic starter Posted : July 29, 2019 4:03 pm
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If her eyes look normal then the problem is not cataracts and the drops for cataracts will not help. Diabetes can cause blood flow issues to the retinas, which causes vision loss due to the cells in the retina dyeing. There is nothing to get the retina cells to regrow so, no nothing to bring back her vision. It's possible she still has a little bit and getting her blood sugar under control might save it what little is left. Like she might be able to perceive light and dark some and that's why she does better in the bright light outside since she can perceive when there's a dark thing in contrast but the dimmer light inside might not be enough.

I'm glad her autoimmune meds have her feeling batter.

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Posted : July 30, 2019 12:36 pm
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If her eyes look normal then the problem is not cataracts and the drops for cataracts will not help. Diabetes can cause blood flow issues to the retinas, which causes vision loss due to the cells in the retina dyeing. There is nothing to get the retina cells to regrow so, no nothing to bring back her vision. It's possible she still has a little bit and getting her blood sugar under control might save it what little is left. Like she might be able to perceive light and dark some and that's why she does better in the bright light outside since she can perceive when there's a dark thing in contrast but the dimmer light inside might not be enough.

I'm glad her autoimmune meds have her feeling batter.

Her eyes are brown, but sometimes look like a little blue. the white of her eyes are red, not real red though. I was hoping eye drops would help, even a little. I really don't want to put her down. She has up and down days. Maybe the insulin will help?

Thank you Mary for your input, I really appreciate it.

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Topic starter Posted : July 30, 2019 1:42 pm
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If it were cataracts it would be cloudy pupils. If the cataracts were enough to make her blind, they would be obvious.

I found this: https://nei.nih.gov/health/diabetic/retinopathy
It says there are injections into the eye that may help bring vision back but since she's a dog she'd have to be sedated for that and it's likely a thing that needs repeated.

If she's getting the right dose to control the diabetes then it should help prevent worsening of the eyes and should help her feel better.

Edit: Well, turns out they do have drops for this but they are different drops than you were looking at.

Steroid eye drops for diabetic macular edema Research has shown that patients with diffuse DME who used Durezol corticosteroid eye drops (Alcon) four times a day for one month had reduced retinal swelling and a significant improvement in visual acuity, compared with similar DME patients who did not use the eye drops.

https://www.allaboutvision.com/conditio ... atment.htm

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Posted : July 30, 2019 3:05 pm
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I just looked at Lucy's eyes again. the brown is darker, and the white part of her eyes, looks like it has red in them.

I dropped off the info about the eye drops for Lucy's eyes at my vets last week. He said, it might work with getting a injection in her eyes first, then try the eye drops .

I got her insulin yesterday for her diabetics.. The vet there showed gary and me how to inject it. It didn't look too bad. it is 5mm in the skin for her diabetes. However, I would think this will be life long treatment?

A friend of mine has a little dog that is also blind. but, he told me his dogs eyes are completely white. Maybe there is different types of blindness

I don't know, all I can do is try. even if Lucy can see a little, it will be better than not at all.

I tried calling a vet that does eye surgery. but, no one called me back. was going to see if that vet can at least do an eye injections.

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Topic starter Posted : August 1, 2019 2:19 pm
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I hope you can get some answers from the vet surgeon. I'll keep my fingers crossed for Lucy. It sounds like you made a good choice to go with the insulin instead of putting her down. Hopefully keeping her blood sugars in check with reduce lots of the issues you've been seeing.

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Posted : August 2, 2019 12:31 pm
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Yes the white pupils(black part) is cataracts. The red is from the diabetic retinopathy. The diabetes makes the blood vessels get blocked so new ones grow and block vision and they leak causing blood in the eye so the red pupils. If it's too advanced the retinas can detach then nothing can be done but if that hasn't happened then those other drops I linked to might work, the other you talked to him about before were for cataracts so the wrong ones. The eye surgeon would have to have a look in her eyes to say if it's treatable or too advanced.

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Posted : August 2, 2019 2:13 pm
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I hope you can get some answers from the vet surgeon. I'll keep my fingers crossed for Lucy. It sounds like you made a good choice to go with the insulin instead of putting her down. Hopefully keeping her blood sugars in check with reduce lots of the issues you've been seeing.

Thank you Ash. There are times (mostly late afternoon) she will walk around the property. During the day, Lucy will sleep or stay with me.
right now, she is laying behind my desk chair.

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Topic starter Posted : August 3, 2019 1:49 pm
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Yes the white pupils(black part) is cataracts. The red is from the diabetic retinopathy. The diabetes makes the blood vessels get blocked so new ones grow and block vision and they leak causing blood in the eye so the red pupils. If it's too advanced the retinas can detach then nothing can be done but if that hasn't happened then those other drops I linked to might work, the other you talked to him about before were for cataracts so the wrong ones. The eye surgeon would have to have a look in her eyes to say if it's treatable or too advanced.

Thank you for your information. I will try to call the doggie eye doctor again. They want a referral from my vet. My vet said, he faxed that over to them. They don't seem to competent. Those type of doctors are hard to find.
There is another one in Pittsburgh. (not far from where some of my family is at)

Thank you very much for the info.

I am on the verge of considering putting her down. I will see if she improves any with the diabetes injections.

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Topic starter Posted : August 3, 2019 1:57 pm
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Yes the white pupils(black part) is cataracts. The red is from the diabetic retinopathy. The diabetes makes the blood vessels get blocked so new ones grow and block vision and they leak causing blood in the eye so the red pupils. If it's too advanced the retinas can detach then nothing can be done but if that hasn't happened then those other drops I linked to might work, the other you talked to him about before were for cataracts so the wrong ones. The eye surgeon would have to have a look in her eyes to say if it's treatable or too advanced.

you missed your calling, you should have been a vet I am a bit confused with your post. sorry, had a long day.

I had Lucy to vet. They did blood work on her. (I was shocked he didn't charge me for the blood work. Maybe he seen my donation sign on their bulletin board)

The results were her insulin needs upped to 7-1/2 cc. Her sugar was a little too high. The red in her eyes are from the diabeties. He told me to use the eye drops. I reminded him about eye drops I was considering. He said it might work.The vet told me Lucy has cataracts.
Actually, the second script for eye drops was more of a paste. I didn't know I am almost out that one.

Doggie eye doctor never called me back. they want an aurthorazion from my vet. which my vet did do, but, they claim he didn't
I am pretty sure a doggie doctor will charge me a lot of money. The other thing I worry about is putting her under to for surgery, or the eye injection.

Thank you for your help. much apreciated.

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Topic starter Posted : August 8, 2019 4:01 pm
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I am considering this eye drop for Lucy " https://www.lanomax.com/"
It is $100.00 a bottle. However, from what I read, it most likely will take more than one bottle.
still cheaper than eye surgery if it works. eye surgery is about $1000.00 or more for one eye. I doubt I would get that much money on my "go fund me page" Also, I would be conserned about putting Lucy under for that. Dog eye doctors are very hard to find.

The one I found near me, wanted a approval from my vet. My vet did send it to them. but, they still have not called me back.
I would not be able to afford their cost anyway.

I have done many reviews on eye drops. Lanomax seems to have good reviews. It is worth a try. I just hope it is not too late for Lucy.
Her eyes really are not blue like some blind dogs are.

I had on my banner to share my go fund me page on their FB or other social media. that never happened icon-sad

a bit Thank you to gitabooks for your help. I appreciate it more than words can say. If you ever need anything, please let me know.

I am going to order a bottle today or tomorrow of the Lanomax and see how it goes. It might take 2 or 3 bottles to work, not sure.
either way, it will still be cheaper than eye surgery.

Not sure if I mentioned this, but, Lucy is now getting insulin shots. Gary gives it to her twice a day. I am too whimpy. if I had to, I would do it.
The vet upped her dosage to 7.5 ml. she was on 5ml.

not sure if I mentioned this, but, the 1st vet I seen for Lucy, said she is blind and suggested to put her down. I could not do that, I at least wanted to try something to help her. however, the vet I usually see (he is the owner and has been a vet for years) did explain more in depth my options, he never suggested to put her down. I did tell him about the Lanomax, and he said the eye drops might now work, she should have the first injection of it. finding a vet that will do that is not easy.

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