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I'm sorry you have to let her go. If she has so much wrong with her it's the right decision but I know it's not an easy one.

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Posted : July 26, 2019 4:14 pm
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I'm sorry you have to let her go. If she has so much wrong with her it's the right decision but I know it's not an easy one.

Thank you Mary. I am having a very hard time letting her go. Today, she was outside for awhile, even ate before she went out.
I don't know a lot about Auto Immune Disease. But, if not treated, it can turn deadly.
However, I was giving her meds for the Auto Immune Disease. The way the vet explained it, she is in poor condition icon-sad

Thank you again Mary.

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Topic starter Posted : July 26, 2019 7:11 pm
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Today Lucy is going to vets to be put down. I am so heartbroken. but, it is hard for me to see her suffer and not have much of a life quality.
The vet wanted to put her down yesterday. could not do it. Gary is going with me today, I will need support from gary on losing her.

I asked the vet's office how much for cremation. $300.00
She will be buried with the rest of my animals that died.

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Topic starter Posted : July 27, 2019 8:41 am
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attached is Lucy's blood test. anyone know about the results, please let me know.
The vet offered to keep her, but, claims Lucy will only live for another 3 days. I just don't know what to think or believe.

Could someone give me their thoughts before 5pm. that is her vet appointment to have her put down.

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Topic starter Posted : July 27, 2019 9:26 am
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Is this the new vet?

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Posted : July 27, 2019 10:13 am
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the vet is at the same place I go. they have 5 vets there.
A friend of mine suggested to go to another vet. he gave me the name of the vet. it is not far from here.

I asked the vet office for cremation price. he said $300.00 A friend of mine told me he took his dog to the same vet I go to
and had his dog cremated. it was $150.00

I just don't know what else I can do for Lucy. It breaks my heart to see her like this. She does go outside a little, but not long.
She as a predisone script I didn't pick up yet. Not sure if it would help?

gary (hubby) don't want me to put her down today. but, I can't let her go on like this.

Please tell me what you would do in this situation. I just can't function anymore.

thank you so much for your support.

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Topic starter Posted : July 27, 2019 12:06 pm
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We have decided as a family that with Cinnamon, when he seems to have more bad days then good, it will be time. Such a hard decision, but animals don't understand why they are suffering, so I feel like I don't want him to be confused as to why he feels so bad or why he doesn't enjoy doing things he use to do.
In the end it has to be your guys' decision, but if you truly feel like she isn't going to have any more good days the sooner you do it the less suffering she will have.

You mentioned she had diabetes? She could be feeling so down because of blood sugar issues. I'm not sure if it would be worth trying to do anything about it with the other issues she has, but I've heard dogs that felt terrible made great come-backs with the proper dosage of insulin (it can take a bit to regulate it).

Again, I'm so sorry for how hard this is. Seeing an animal in pain makes us hurt too.

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Posted : July 27, 2019 1:39 pm
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We have decided as a family that with Cinnamon, when he seems to have more bad days then good, it will be time. Such a hard decision, but animals don't understand why they are suffering, so I feel like I don't want him to be confused as to why he feels so bad or why he doesn't enjoy doing things he use to do.
In the end it has to be your guys' decision, but if you truly feel like she isn't going to have any more good days the sooner you do it the less suffering she will have.

You mentioned she had diabetes? She could be feeling so down because of blood sugar issues. I'm not sure if it would be worth trying to do anything about it with the other issues she has, but I've heard dogs that felt terrible made great come-backs with the proper dosage of insulin (it can take a bit to regulate it).

Again, I'm so sorry for how hard this is. Seeing an animal in pain makes us hurt too.

the vet did mention insulin. I am too whimpy for that. Hubby would do it. but, with gary, I will have to keep reminding him.
Not sure how much insulin costs.

I am kind of P.O ed at the vet I go to. I was suppose to have an appointment today. I was going to have her put down. but, it turned out
there was no appointment. (actually, glad it happened that way) I asked for prednisone, but, they did not fill it.

I was really hoping Lucy won't need insulin shots. but, if she does, I will do what I have to do. She is still blind. I asked my vet about the eye drops that is suppose to clear cataracts, he said, no eye drops will help.. It takes longer than surgery, but, is suppose to work.
surgery is very expensive. I would also be afraid of her going under sedation for that.

Lucy still goes outside, but not like she use to. I feel bad, cause I know she can't see. I have to clap my hands to get her to walk down the slight slant on the side porch. the back door has 3 steps. however, there are times she will go outside on her own.

Thank you so very much for your support.

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Topic starter Posted : July 27, 2019 5:20 pm
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I know vets are busy, I always try to keep that in mind, but it when it seems they treat you like just another client instead of someone with a unique situation, it can get frustrating. I asked about the vet earlier because some vets can suggest euthanasia quicker than others without offering other options. A good vet should offer all options and make their cost and likelihood of success clear.

Looked up cataracts in dogs and found this - "High blood sugar levels alter the metabolism of the cells in the lens and can cause very rapid onset cataracts" and also "The classic symptoms of diabetes in dogs are excessive thirst, increased urination, and weight loss despite normal or increased food consumption. Acute-onset blindness resulting from cataracts can also be a sign" ( https://www.petmd.com/dog/care/cataract ... -need-know and https://www.whole-dog-journal.com/healt ... s-in-dogs/).
While the cataracts won't go away, if the diabetes is treated, hopefully a lot of other symptoms will! Blind dogs can seem pitiful, especially while they are still getting use to navigating, but dogs adapt very well, to being blind, deaf, or having amputations.

Interestingly, I found this too - "An estimated 50 percent of canine diabetes cases are likely linked to pancreatic damage caused by autoimmune disorders". Maybe Lucy got the diabetes from the autoimmune disorder and the cataracts from the diabetes.

I don't want to give false hope, especially since any treatment will likely be lifelong and potentially expensive with a lot of vet visits, but hopefully this will help explain some of the symptoms she has and give some options of what can be done to help. In the end, she may just have too many health issues, perhaps due to genetics or just the degree of her illness. Hopefully this helps!

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Posted : July 27, 2019 5:40 pm
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Actually, the vet did say something about high sugar. I am not good with health stuff.
I got her another refill of autoimmune script. I tried getting prednisone, but, I have to call the vet again for that.
Doubt the prednisone will help.

I appreciate your time on looking for info for me. right now, I am so tired and burned out. I will read through the links tomorrow.

thank you a million times..

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Topic starter Posted : July 27, 2019 5:45 pm
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No problem!
Also, my Mom told me prednisone is bad for diabetes and can cause blood sugar issues, so I would be careful with it.

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Posted : July 27, 2019 6:12 pm
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Weren't you giving something else for the autoimmune besides prednisone? Most likely you can't give both but I don't know. It's really complicated to treat autoimune issues, as you do need the regular blood tests to find the right dose and be sure the needed dose doesn't change and to check for other organs being damaged.

The blood panel you posted is just the blood count. The count shows most of the blood cells low and some of the white cells up so yeah, it indicated her body is attacking it's own blood cells.

Chem panel would have the blood sugar and such.

Honestly if it were me I'd put her down, but it is harder when they are not old. If you do insulin you will have to test her blood sugar several times a day by poking her to get blood and she'll still need to immune meds and if the insulin levels given aren't right they can cause liver failure or worse.

If you don't give the insulin she will die from the blood sugar being too high and her pancreas failing and having had to see Pua die from that, you really don't want that.

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Posted : July 28, 2019 1:49 am
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No problem!
Also, my Mom told me prednisone is bad for diabetes and can cause blood sugar issues, so I would be careful with it.

thank you, I did not know that. She is not on prednisone now. only a script called "AZATHCprinie 50mg

I called the vets office today. They are going to call insulin to Walmart for Lucy. That will be my last hope.
I think the script is $40.00. not sure how long that lasts.

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Topic starter Posted : July 28, 2019 10:21 am
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Weren't you giving something else for the autoimmune besides prednisone? Most likely you can't give both but I don't know. It's really complicated to treat autoimune issues, as you do need the regular blood tests to find the right dose and be sure the needed dose doesn't change and to check for other organs being damaged.

The blood panel you posted is just the blood count. The count shows most of the blood cells low and some of the white cells up so yeah, it indicated her body is attacking it's own blood cells.

Chem panel would have the blood sugar and such.

Honestly if it were me I'd put her down, but it is harder when they are not old. If you do insulin you will have to test her blood sugar several times a day by poking her to get blood and she'll still need to immune meds and if the insulin levels given aren't right they can cause liver failure or worse.

If you don't give the insulin she will die from the blood sugar being too high and her pancreas failing and having had to see Pua die from that, you really don't want that.

the vet prescribed "ANSYHiCprine 50mg. vet told me to give her that and prednisone
I can't bring myself to put her down yet. I will try what I can to help her. if none the new scrips help, I will have to put her down. it is breaking my heart to see her this way, but, will break my heart to put her down at 7 years old.

Do you think her low blood counts are contributed to auto immune?
from what I read, it can usually be hereditary. Lucy was from an Amish family, so yep, I believe it is hereditary.

The vet will call in injectable insulin, do you think that will help? My sisters cat had I think Auto immune disease. They gave him injections,
but, he only lived for about 6 months longer.

If this injectable does work, do you think her eye site will come back?

If nothing works for Lucy, I will have to put her down, it will be so heartbreaking for me. I really love my Lucy. She is such a sweet girl.

Also, Leo (my aussie) is very bonded to Lucy. He will feel the lose icon-sad

thats the only thing about animals, their life is too short for us animal lovers.

thank you Mary for your reply. and support, I appreciate it.

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Topic starter Posted : July 28, 2019 10:38 am
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Update on Lucy.

After spending yet another over $100.00+ the other day. Lucy has diabetics. Now I need to treat her for that.
I will have to give her injections. Hopefully tomorrow they will have the injections ready.
Actually, they called it into Walmart. not sure if they will call in it on Monday

Guess now, it will be a life long insulin shots for her
I will have to put my "big girl pants" on and give her the injections. (I am Whimpey with stuff like that)
My niece has diabetics and she explained how to give the injections. she said she uses some type injection that looks like a pen.

I would assume this is why Lucy lost her eye sight. What I don't know is if Lucy will get her eye sight back. I would think I would have to give her certain type of eye drops for that

If anyone has more info about this, please let me know. I really hope Lucy can get her eye site back.
If anyone has food ideas or any ideas, please let me know. I would deeply appreciate it.

the vet I seen that took Lucy's blood work, explained her blood levels. She suggested I put Lucy down.
I told the vet, I can't do that right now. I was going to bring Lucy in the next day to put her down, but, wanted Gary to be with me,
cause I know I would have been a basket case. Overall, glad I didn't agree to putting Lucy down that day. Actually, I called the next day for that vet, and she was not even working that day Time for me to move on and find a different vet.

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Topic starter Posted : July 28, 2019 9:40 pm
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