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caninesrock
Noble Member

Oh. That's a shame they are so rare. They look like beautiful dogs.

What breeds of dog does he use to make his wolfdogs?

I know a few Korean breeds like Pungsan,the Jindo, and the Nureongi (which sadly are the kind of dog that is killed and eaten. 🙁 ). I don't know any other Korean breeds though.

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Topic starter Posted : August 9, 2016 9:04 pm
Crisp
Active Member

Oh. That's a shame they are so rare. They look like beautiful dogs.

What breeds of dog does he use to make his wolfdogs?

I know a few Korean breeds like Pungsan,the Jindo, and the Nureongi (which sadly are the kind of dog that is killed and eaten. 🙁 ). I don't know any other Korean breeds though.

He uses GSD, Jindo, and Poongsan dogs, from what I found on his page.

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Posted : August 11, 2016 4:43 pm
David492
Eminent Member

I'm korean, and I know a breeder in Korea, but I don't know if he ships his puppies. I could ask him tho. Smile

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Posted : May 17, 2018 2:32 pm
caninesrock
Noble Member

Found two more breeds.

 

Some Carolina Dogs are thought to have mated with coyotes in the wild:

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https://columbiametro.com/article/prehistoric-primitive-preserved/

Dr. Brisbin’s discovery provided a new means of studying the history and evolution of a number of sub-species and an additional method of tracking the migratory patterns of ancient man. However, the relatively recent introduction of coyotes to the Southeast presented a threat to the breed. Not only were the dogs faced with an unfamiliar predator but also with an added potential for hybridization with this new invader.

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/16/science/a-dog-that-goes-way-back.html

This is not to say the Carolina dog is more mythic than real. But the problem is that some of the wilder dogs have mated with other breeds — local dogs and even coyotes.

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Topic starter Posted : April 15, 2020 1:31 am
caninesrock
Noble Member

And

Thai Bangkaew Dogs are thought to be part golden jackal:

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One day an old Bangkaew villager called Tah Nim granted him a native black and white female dog, which was pregnant at the time. However, since there were no other male dogs in that area, they believed her mating was either a Dhole (Cuon alpinus) or a Golden jackal (Canis aureus) – both of these wild predators inhabit forests surrounding this monastery. Latest chromosome study of the TBD confirmed the breed indeed being a cross between a jackal and a domestic dog. This native Thai bitch of Luang Poo Mak Metharee produced the litter of longhaired, black and dark brown puppies. Those were the first Thai Bangkaew Dogs, which soon afterwards became very popular and prized among locals.

https://primitivedogs.com/thai-bangkaew-dog-breed-characteristics/?cn-reloaded=1#

 

What makes this really interesting is that folklore turned out to be rooted in fact. A chromosome study confirmed that the Bangkaew was indeed a cross between a jackal and a domestic dog.

https://nationalpurebreddogday.com/thai-bangkaew/

 

 

 

he Thai Bangkaew was developed in the country of Thailand in the 1900s. The Thai Bangkaew originated in the village of Bangkaew, located in the Bang Rakam District in the Phitsanulok Province. In the Bang Rakam District, there was a monastery named Wat Bangkaew. It is commonly believed that the Thai Bangkaew was bred from the domestic Thai dog and the Asiatic jackal dog but evolved into part of the Spitz family.

Read more at: https://wagwalking.com/breed/thai-bangkaew

The Thai Bangkaew was developed in the country of Thailand in the 1900s. The Thai Bangkaew originated in the village of Bangkaew, located in the Bang Rakam District in the Phitsanulok Province. In the Bang Rakam District, there was a monastery named Wat Bangkaew. It is commonly believed that the Thai Bangkaew was bred from the domestic Thai dog and the Asiatic jackal dog but evolved into part of the Spitz family.

Read more at: https://wagwalking.com/breed/thai-bangkaew

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Topic starter Posted : April 15, 2020 1:40 am
Nìmwey
Reputable Member

Yes, I read that about the Bangkaew recently. Smile Seems to have been proven through DNA tests.
Super pretty dogs, too, but very "different" in temperament from our western breeds (typical for Asian dogs).

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Posted : April 15, 2020 3:21 pm
caninesrock
Noble Member

@nimwey Yeah, very interesting. They are the only other breed I know of besides Sulimov Dogs that are part jackal. I  wish they had a more jackal-like appearance though. The Sulimov Dogs look more jackal-like but aren't available for public sale.

Exotic Wishlist: high content wolfdog or wolf,Coyote or Coydog, Black-backed Jackal, New Guinea Singing Dog, Red Fox

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Topic starter Posted : April 15, 2020 6:29 pm
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